EP54: Product Led Growth and Other Ways to Grow

Today Josh & Nate talk about product led growth and other ways to grow a company.
A fresh perspective on the stages of building a SaaS business
A fresh perspective on the stages of building a software as a service (SaaS) business.
In this podcast we hear from Josh Ho and Nate Bosscher, two founders in very different stages of their SaaS journey.
Josh is in the company building phase. While Nate struggles to start a profitable SaaS of his own.
Follow their journey as Josh helps Nate find his footing and they meander the world of SaaS.
Nate Bosscher
Nate is a software engineer and entrepreneur. When he isn’t consulting at Blue Giraffe, he’s working on his next startup idea.
He’s had a lot of failed attempts but each attempt is closer and closer to success.
Josh Ho
Josh is the founder of Referral Rock a SaaS business in the marketing technology space.
He’s an engineer by trade but now spends his time wherever the business needs him most.
He sometimes blogs at mojoho, but aspires to write more. You can also find him on LinkedIn but mostly Twitter.
Today Josh & Nate talk about product led growth and other ways to grow a company.
This week Nate and Josh debate about small bets and come to some unexpected conclusions.
Would you work on a startup for 7 years not knowing if it will succeed? Today Nate and Josh dive into the metal space of long bets and if they’re worth it.
Today we dive into Status List (Nate’s Uptime Monitoring service) and what strategies could be used to grow that business.
We’ve made it to #50!! This week we do a little reflection and look forwards at more things to be done for Product Sonar.
On this special .5 episode, we look into 3 startups: Baremetrics, Profitwell and Chart Mogul, they all were founded in the last ~5yrs, originally they did mostly the same thing, they were fierce competitors, and today 2 of them have been acquired. Today, an outsider’s view of the 3 horse race.
Starting a SaaS business isn’t easy, but it’s definitely more fun with a friend to help you along the way. Since they launched this podcast in early 2021, the most downloaded episode is Episode 4 – Why, why why? Why start this podcast, Why SaaS, Why not other types of businesses?.
Josh and Nate are avid podcast listeners who listen and learn from the best SaaS podcasts and SaaS entrepreneurs such as:
But they truly drew inspiration from the the Software Social Podcast where their friends Colleen and Michele have created a fantastic dynamic between two SaaS founders at different stages of their business.
Legend has it that Josh say’s this exact quote to Nate: “What do you think about starting a podcast? I’ll be Michele, you can be Colleen”.
So far they’ve learned a lot about how they each approach ideation, market validation, and the mentality of building assets. They plan on covering more SaaS topics in the future like MRR, ARR, churn, onboarding, customer success, bootstrapping, co-founders, SaaS product, B2B SaaS, growth hacking, entrepreneurship, SaaS marketing, case studies, content marketing, SEO, growth strategies, being a serial entrepreneur, and marketing strategies. All with both actionable advice and actionable insights.
While both Nate and Josh are bootstrapped, this startup chat style podcast is not exclusively about bootstrapping.
Both Nate and Josh agree that the process of sharing our journey’s as in public as SaaS founders has been both rewarding and fun. Nate approaches this whole process with a beginner’s mindset, yet he’s far from a beginner. While Josh tries to stay open-minded and is careful not to give blanket advice.
Join the guys each week for new episodes wherever you listen to podcasts. (and yes there maybe some SaaS but mostly just josh-splaining)